Comments on: Lance Allred and the Mad World http://the-rebuttal.com/?p=240&utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=lance-allred-and-the-mad-world "Accountability breeds response-ability." - Stephen R. Covey Thu, 02 Sep 2010 08:52:01 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Timothy http://the-rebuttal.com/?p=240&cpage=1#comment-150 Timothy Thu, 16 Oct 2008 04:41:37 +0000 http://the-rebuttal.com/?p=240#comment-150 I was a 800 and 1500 metres runner (and a rage-party man!!) and have been trained on the same track as Dean Barton-Smith back in the 90's. I have seen him training so hard and trying to be the best out of him, he was one of the best Deaf athletes I have ever seen. He had a lot of supporters that made him successfully in the Deaflymics. I know a lot of famous (hearing) athletes at the time and almost all of them have their own manager or management to look after their business affairs. I remember Dean was the number one in the Decathlon in Australia and has no proper sponsorship. I was found out that the number two Decathlon athlete behind Dean even got a sponsorship because he had a manager to manage his business affairs. Dean had so much work on his hands like training, contacting and meeting with people such as managing his own business affairs. Maybe it is because of the deafness factor? Cheers :) I was a 800 and 1500 metres runner (and a rage-party man!!) and have been trained on the same track as Dean Barton-Smith back in the 90′s. I have seen him training so hard and trying to be the best out of him, he was one of the best Deaf athletes I have ever seen. He had a lot of supporters that made him successfully in the Deaflymics.

I know a lot of famous (hearing) athletes at the time and almost all of them have their own manager or management to look after their business affairs. I remember Dean was the number one in the Decathlon in Australia and has no proper sponsorship. I was found out that the number two Decathlon athlete behind Dean even got a sponsorship because he had a manager to manage his business affairs. Dean had so much work on his hands like training, contacting and meeting with people such as managing his own business affairs. Maybe it is because of the deafness factor?

Cheers :)

]]> By: Dean http://the-rebuttal.com/?p=240&cpage=1#comment-148 Dean Thu, 16 Oct 2008 04:27:44 +0000 http://the-rebuttal.com/?p=240#comment-148 Hi Robert, Good to hear from someone as far as US of A. Thanks for sharing your thoughts on Lance Alfred situation. As a sporting Aussie, but dont have the exceptional skills as a basketballer let alone a soccer player like Gary, I am curious as what the consensus of Deaf Americans view in regards to how Lance is being handled in this regards. Especially what is supposingly have been said by the coach? I understand the importance of having sporting role models but in the case of above, is there still deaf oppression occuring in mainstream sport let alone 'glass ceilings' for Deaf Americans or is this a rare case? Hi Robert, Good to hear from someone as far as US of A. Thanks for sharing your thoughts on Lance Alfred situation.

As a sporting Aussie, but dont have the exceptional skills as a basketballer let alone a soccer player like Gary, I am curious as what the consensus of Deaf Americans view in regards to how Lance is being handled in this regards. Especially what is supposingly have been said by the coach?

I understand the importance of having sporting role models but in the case of above, is there still deaf oppression occuring in mainstream sport let alone ‘glass ceilings’ for Deaf Americans or is this a rare case?

]]> By: gazza http://the-rebuttal.com/?p=240&cpage=1#comment-142 gazza Tue, 14 Oct 2008 13:04:08 +0000 http://the-rebuttal.com/?p=240#comment-142 Being an Oz resident and a soccer nut ... Don't know a lot about basketball. In the article I was trying to point out that he may have been cut simply because he didn't make the grade. I was trying to focus on some of the more discriminatory life experiences he had faced. I agree totally his ten day contract probably wasn't one of them but the blast he got from the coach in question definately was. Thanks for your comment and clearing up the mess I made of the technical terms like NBA. Appreciated. Being an Oz resident and a soccer nut … Don’t know a lot about basketball.

In the article I was trying to point out that he may have been cut simply because he didn’t make the grade. I was trying to focus on some of the more discriminatory life experiences he had faced.

I agree totally his ten day contract probably wasn’t one of them but the blast he got from the coach in question definately was.

Thanks for your comment and clearing up the mess I made of the technical terms like NBA. Appreciated.

]]> By: Robert http://the-rebuttal.com/?p=240&cpage=1#comment-141 Robert Tue, 14 Oct 2008 11:43:35 +0000 http://the-rebuttal.com/?p=240#comment-141 I watched Lance Allred play. I admire his hustle and how he gives forth his effort. I admire his character too. He went through lots. He speaks his mind and stands up for himself and whatever he believes in. Just for someone who started with 10-day contract Lance played lot of games and received extensions or whatever. You might or not want to find out the percentage of NBA players who were cut by their teams after posting statistics similar to that of Lance's. I believe he might get a fair shake again in some other place if not Cleveland. It's not always a deaf thing if you get my drift here. I'm Deaf and a native user of American Sign Language but I'm not naive. I don't blame as much as some angry deaf people do. By the way, it's not National Basketball League (NBL), it's National Basketball Association (NBA). NBA has a lower-tier league subsidiary or whatever and it's called National Developmental Basketball League (NDBL). The Bottom Line: Not Always Discrimination, Pal. I watched Lance Allred play. I admire his hustle and how he gives forth his effort. I admire his character too. He went through lots. He speaks his mind and stands up for himself and whatever he believes in. Just for someone who started with 10-day contract Lance played lot of games and received extensions or whatever. You might or not want to find out the percentage of NBA players who were cut by their teams after posting statistics similar to that of Lance’s. I believe he might get a fair shake again in some other place if not Cleveland. It’s not always a deaf thing if you get my drift here. I’m Deaf and a native user of American Sign Language but I’m not naive. I don’t blame as much as some angry deaf people do. By the way, it’s not National Basketball League (NBL), it’s National Basketball Association (NBA). NBA has a lower-tier league subsidiary or whatever and it’s called National Developmental Basketball League (NDBL).

The Bottom Line: Not Always Discrimination, Pal.

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